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		<title>Domain Names, New and Old &#8211; Everybody Sells</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does a guy who is well known for “not selling domains” know about selling domain names?  Well I might just know a thing or two.  As the title of this post states:  Everybody sells. It doesn’t matter whether you’re selling cars, homes, financial instruments, religion..  everyone sells something.  Some of us are hard-sell : [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.expressionsofexcellence.com/GIFs/creative_selling.gif" alt="" /> What does a guy who is well known for “not selling domains” know about selling domain names?  Well I might just know a thing or two.  As the title of this post states:  Everybody sells.</p>
<p>It doesn’t matter whether you’re selling cars, homes, financial instruments, religion..  everyone sells something.  Some of us are hard-sell : Timeshares on Maui spring to mind.  Some of us are soft-sell: Water in the desert for example. Make no mistake, the global economy functions on sales and whether you’re paparazzi or a politician, a plumber or a pastor, everyone sells something.</p>
<p>A few years back I was approached by a company and encouraged to place my domain names for sale through their marketplace. I was given a host of reasons why this was a good idea. “These names don’t make any money”.. “ Selling the names will actually improve my overall portfolio’s value”..  “Selective pruning is just prudent”. Shortly thereafter, a second domain marketplace called. They suggested I sell my names through &#8216;them&#8217; and that I should cap my purchase prices at $5,000 because that was the limit of automated credit card processors in their scenario..  They even sent me a list of names that I should sell..  tens of thousands of them that don’t make enough to cover their renewals..  and If I could get $2,000-$5,000 each wouldn’t that be Fabulous?!  The problem as I looked through my list was that many of the names they suggested I sell were pretty good.  I’d pay more than 2-5k for many of these names if they were dropping at auction.  I politely declined their offer.</p>
<p>Understanding the Ecosystem</p>
<p>Years ago before I began in the domain business, before I had built the grubstake in real-estate which I’d ultimately use to kick-start my move to the Caribbean, I worked for a glass manufacturer/distributor and sold crates of flat glass to assorted manufacturers. Glass (like domain names) is a commodity business. Everyone is going to need glass at some point, whether they know it or not. The guy who hired me was named Ralph. I watched Ralph in awe as he took orders and worked his calculator selling hundreds of thousands of dollars in glass, pushing buttons on his phone to get trucks moving and called on clients who seemed genuinely delighted to see him.</p>
<p>Ralph was a great salesman in the pure, honest and wholesome sense.  He was a facilitator and he made things happen.  The most important lesson Ralph ever taught me was never to sell your product too cheaply.  We’d make sales calls and very convincing glass buyers would swear up and down that the maximum they could pay for a crate of glass was .75 cents a foot. They’d threaten to purchase the product elsewhere, they swore they had a lower offer, they’d beg and cajole using the carrot and the stick. Ralph would switch the conversation to a personal tack, disarm them with his personable manner and elegantly decline to sell.</p>
<p>On the drive to lunch I’d ask Ralph why he wouldn’t fill the order when we were making 20 or 30 percent margins on that ton of glass.. “Because they can easily afford to pay more” he’d reply..  “and once I sell that crate it’s gone, it will take 3 months before I get another crate..  somebody else will buy it because it’s a specialty size with low cut-loss”, and if I sell it at that price, next time he’ll ask for another nickel discount.. “</p>
<p>Ralph knew his customers, he knew their business and most importantly he intimately understood the ecosystem of the pond in which he lived. Ralph knew that if he discounted this glass then his competitor wouldn’t get the order and his competitor would have to sell something else at a discount, hurting Ralph’s margins on that other product which would potentially unravel Ralph’s other orders for the other product at ‘that’ price, forcing Ralph to compete against his competitor on yet other products he wasn’t as strong in &#8211; In the final analysis, there were a dozen good reasons not to take the order at that price.</p>
<p>I was a young sales-guy-in-training and this ran completely counter to my order-taking instinct,  but as time wore on I came to respect and appreciate the eco system of our pond and Ralph’s logic. I could bust my hump running around town to sell ten crates of glass for 10% margin or I could put my feet up on my desk, sell just two crates at a 50% margin, making the same profit and still have another 8 crates to sell on another day!</p>
<p>“Good” Domain Names &#8212; more like Oil than Glass.</p>
<p>The domain name business is much simpler than the glass business.  If you look at the names which people want, you’ll find that sales (and sales inquiries) occur for names which get some kind of traffic.  I’m not talking about revenues from PPC.  You can have poorly implemented domain names which make no money from the traffic that comes to them, that still get some trickle of type-in traffic.  I am talking about a heartbeat folks..  Names which somebody will either type into their address bar because the string means something to them, or names which people look-up the whois record of, to see who owns it.  Names which compell other human beings to take some form of action. Some domain sellers suspend this law of physics by baiting and switching &#8212; taking buyers who are looking for XX.com domain name because it has meaning, resonance, gravity, traffic and switching them into Y-Y.info domain name because it “feels similar” or costs one tenth / one-hundredth as much.  Those plays notwithstanding, the fuel that drives the machine and makes the magic possible are good meaningful domain names with resonance, gravity and a heart-beat of some kind. Unlike glass which is made of sand, these meaningful gems which bring warm bodies through the turnstiles are of a finite quantity &#8212; more like oil.</p>
<p>As mentioned previously, I’ve spent the better part of the last decade sifting through expiring domain name lists and I’ve gotten pretty good at telling the good ones from the bad ones.  I’ve also watched other people who do what I do, and learned how they interpret “good-ones” and “bad ones”.</p>
<p>In my 6 years of scanning expiring domain name lists I&#8217;ve found that only 7-12% of all names that expire mean anything to more than one person..  The rest are such poor made-up quality that they have no resonance or gravity and they will likely never be looked up on whois, or typed into the browser by anyone other than the name&#8217;s registrant. This other 88-93% of names are meaningful to the sole distinctive entity that registered them.  They include odd/trademarked strings, made up words, disjoined phrases. They are the trees in the forest, falling, that nobody is there to hear.  The successful people I see at domain shows who spank my wallet pocket with their bidder’s paddle seem to share my viewpoint of what constitutes a good name.</p>
<p>Domains Expire Every Day</p>
<p>In the past, the average daily-list of expiring domain names was reflective of the broader registered namespace. If 20,000 names expired, that would mirror a random sampling of 20,000 names from the registry zone file. Today, quality expiring names are even scarcer due to registrar/auction-house name withholding. Additionally, the high renewal rates and exhaustion of the name-space mean that a diminishing percentage of ‘all names’ meet this meaningful , resonant criteria. Today it&#8217;s 7-12% of names that fall into my “good bucket”..  in 5 years as more made up schlock gets added to the zone-file mix, it will be 5-7% of all names registered that have meaning.</p>
<p>To put this in perspective, the types of names which constitute my theoretical “best 7-12%” of all names registered include all 2 and 3 character names, nearly all 4 letters, any search-term no matter how far down the long-tail. It includes zip codes and popular screen-names, first/last name combos that are popular/less popular, pretty much anything that means anything to anybody and a second or third person. It includes the best .info’s .us names (even .mobi’s)…  All the “good ones” amount to just 7-12% of all names registered. <strong>The rest is an ever circulating torrent of backfill which expires and gets replaced in a grand </strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cycle"><strong>water</strong></a><strong> like cycle, with new garbage..  A never ending boulevard of broken dreams to come</strong>.</p>
<p>If you’ve read this far and you buy into my viewpoint, or just suspend your disbelief and follow my thought process, you will see why blanket-selling names that mean something for $2500-5,000 is not as sustainable as it may seem.  Businesses will think nothing of spending $10,000 or $15,000 for a one month, one-time insertion into a trade publication, or for 2 months employment of a junior staff member.. yet the meaningful domain name which quietly keeps on giving and can itself be resold at a profit is somehow worth whatever you can get, simply because it hasn’t generated any PPC revenue yet? I believe a  great deal of overall portfolio value is lost as large scale sellers accidentally burn the furniture, selling names with even 30 uniques a month but no PPC revenue,  I see it as destroying long-term portfolio value in the name of short-term EBITDA.</p>
<p>A Hundred Million Bucks Ain’t What it Used to Be.</p>
<p>Forget the correction in commodities and the rise in stocks this last week, the bottom line is that papering over problems with more paper, and bailing-out &#8216;the troubled&#8217; will only hasten the demise of the currency doing the papering.  If a credit expansion renews and continues at all cost, then warm up your wheelbarrows folks..  you’ll need one per name.</p>
<p>The supply of meaningful and generic domain names is tight as a drum today. In an effort to increase revenues for itself and to simultaneously ease that demand, ICANN plans to start entertaining proposals for new namespaces in about a year’s time. I predict this will do little to quell the desire for meaningful .com, net and CC TLD names. Corporate IT departments overwhelmed by the task of managing existing .com typos simply won&#8217;t be up to the challenge of managing a corporate GTLD such as .COKE or .IBM.  Even with the help of a presently absent killer app from the likes of Godaddy, Enom or Tucows such sideshows will be an uphill push in a recession year. If my hunch is correct then <strong>.web</strong> <strong>.blog</strong> and other new <strong>.extensions</strong> will come to pass and they will marginalize the .info, .us, .eu, .asia and .mobi namespaces just as those namespaces relegated .ws and .cc to obscurity before them.  I predict that .com and other established namespaces will continue to thrive with some very minor marginalization at the fringes . The failure of former would-be contenders such as .travel, .biz and .pro to satiate demand for coveted names, shows us that <strong>adding more skim milk to the mix will not stop the cream from rising, and that cream is .com</strong>.</p>
<p>I suppose all this brings me back to my first point..  With 6+ billion would-be <em>&#8220;sellers&#8221;</em> on our planet and just 10 to 18 million &#8220;meaningful&#8221; domain names across &#8220;all extensions&#8221; good enough to do the selling, this might just be the right time to put your feet on your desk and triple your prices &#8211; or to not sell at all.</p>
<p>Some would argue that not selling anything may be a bit extreme.. and that may be.  Fortune favors the bold after all.  But we live in unprecedented times, amid an unprecedented sea-change. In the future, fortune could well favor those who didn’t sell their good domain names too cheaply, or too boldly.</p>
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		<title>Disruptive Technology to Change Advertising as We Know it</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>frankschilling</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://domainstate.com/showthread.php3?s=8444324b3e3a6a31b47609a0ffc57499&#38;threadid=84905 We can all feel the changes reverberate across the Web..  Domain names registered by small registrants and large aggregators who create content and take eyeballs/market share away from established media/content co&#8217;s are the ultimate disruptive technology. It&#8217;s a great time to be in this industry..  I&#8217;m really looking forward to seeing what happens.]]></description>
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<p>We can all feel the changes reverberate across the Web..  Domain names registered by small registrants and large aggregators who create content and take eyeballs/market share away from established media/content co&#8217;s are the ultimate disruptive technology. It&#8217;s a great time to be in this industry..  I&#8217;m really looking forward to seeing what happens.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elliot blogs about the 3 letter .com realm. http://www.elliotsblog.com/index.php/2007/12/10/b-king-on-three-letter-com-sales/ ***FS*** There are only 17,576 3 letters in .com ..  This piece probably explains which a have gotten scores of spam sales offers for my three letter and 3 number domains over the past few days. Google reduces the importance of sub domains in it&#8217;s ranking [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Elliot blogs about the 3 letter .com realm.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.elliotsblog.com/index.php/2007/12/10/b-king-on-three-letter-com-sales/">http://www.elliotsblog.com/index.php/2007/12/10/b-king-on-three-letter-com-sales/</a></p>
<p><strong>***FS***</strong> There are only 17,576 3 letters in .com ..  This piece probably explains which a have gotten scores of spam sales offers for my three letter and 3 number domains over the past few days.<br />
<strong>Google reduces the importance of sub domains in it&#8217;s ranking system.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Excerpt</strong>: <em>&#8220;As eBay and others have aggressively used subdomains to dominate branded AND unbranded search results, and Google has improved their sitelinks technology, any relevancy gain by treating subdomains as a separate site will be going away. Google is going to start  treating subdomains like subfolders, and limit the number of results from any site to just two.&#8221;</em> <a href="http://www.domainnews.com/general/2007120823/google-changing-handling-of-sub-domains/#more-1905">http://www.domainnews.com/general/2007120823/google-changing-handling-of-sub-domains/#more-1905</a></p>
<p><strong>***FS***</strong> Enjoy getting google traffic.  Don&#8217;t rely on it as the primarily source for traffic for your website/business. The best traffic is the traffic tha Google wants to &#8220;buy&#8221;  and that traffic comes from generic type-in traffic producing domain names.</p>
<p><strong>Microsoft introduces free Live.in email addresses to Indians.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.domainnews.com/general/2007120817/microsoft-india-introduces-new-livein-e-mail-domain/">http://www.domainnews.com/general/2007120817/microsoft-india-introduces-new-livein-e-mail-domain/</a></p>
<p><strong>***FS***</strong>  I think many more folks would run email on their own proprietary domains (for email) if they understood how to go about it.  There is a knowlege gap where getting email or getting a domain is not simple enough for regular folks.  Domain values will have their next dramatic leg-up when an intermediary comes along that makes the registration, management and renewal of names and email easier for the average person&#8230;  and once that application &#8220;takes off&#8221; in a significant mainstream way. Perhaps a mechanism that allows anyone to get an email on anyone else&#8217;s name or pays a fee for each email account to the name-holder.</p>
<p><strong>Josh: Elliot Silver takes some of Jay W&#8217;s advice&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>.. and thanks him for it. Elliot bought an existing site that google didn&#8217;t include in it&#8217;s results.  By following Jay&#8217;s advice, his name was reincluded, now appears as the #1 listing, and he&#8217;s getting additional traffic.  Even the experts learn something from time-to-time. There&#8217;s alot of learning from each other going on in the domain/development realm. <a href="http://www.elliotsblog.com/index.php/2007/12/08/thank-you-jay/">http://www.elliotsblog.com/index.php/2007/12/08/thank-you-jay/</a></p>
<p><strong>More</strong> from Elliot:  Honesty and integrity critical when doing business in the domain realm.  To be fair it&#8217;s critical everywhere <a href="http://www.elliotsblog.com/index.php/2007/12/08/domain-industry-lesson-1/">http://www.elliotsblog.com/index.php/2007/12/08/domain-industry-lesson-1/</a></p>
<p><strong>Sahar opens his blog wider,</strong></p>
<p>..and hopes to spark discussions and learning in his new area call &#8220;Debates&#8221;. <a href="http://www.conceptualist.com/category/debates/">http://www.conceptualist.com/category/debates/</a></p>
<p><strong>***FS***</strong>  Another great idea from Sahar</p>
<p><strong>79.1 percent of marketers plan to increase their online budgets for 2008.</strong></p>
<p>No surprise here, but good to see nonetheless.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.btobonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071207/FREE/71207006">http://www.btobonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071207/FREE/71207006</a></p>
<p><strong>ParkingWhois.com</strong></p>
<p>Smart idea that&#8217;s in beta.  Tells you if a domain is parked or not, and where.  Problem is i tried 5 examples.  Two worked, and the other 3 said the domain is not parked,.. and it is.  It was a bit slow on a couple of the searches.  They need to make it more accurate or this service won&#8217;t get used.</p>
<p><strong>Music business in Japan sees 1% rise in sales</strong></p>
<p>&#8230;industry observers attribute this to mobile music downloads. <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/7130596.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/7130596.stm</a></p>
<p><strong>ConsumerReports.org</strong></p>
<p>&#8230;Paid subscriptions, no ads.  3 million viewers who pay for web access. 4.5 million who buy the print vrsion. 208 million in revenue and operating margin of 28 million. <a href="http://www.news.com/Success-without-ads/2100-1038_3-6222063.html?tag=nefd.top">http://www.news.com/Success-without-ads/2100-1038_3-6222063.html?tag=nefd.top</a></p>
<p><strong>***FS***</strong>  Only 13% margins..  Sounds low for a publishing outfit. </p>
<p><strong>Ad company installs tracking capabilities at the ISP level.</strong></p>
<p>SP&#8217;s hold alot of power.  With great ower comes great responsibility.. Without great responsibility, comes great regulation. <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071209.wsniff1209/BNStory/Technology/home">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071209.wsniff1209/BNStory/Technology/home</a></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;The Ultimate Domain Name Guide&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s from 2006.  It&#8217;s relevant today.</p>
<p>The headline is over the top.  That said, it&#8217;s a good overview, especially for people just getting started.  The writer, Sebastian Robinson, thinks that the right domain name is critical for your business. Excerpt: &#8220;Domain names have become more than just an address on the web. Today they can make or break a business.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Josh</strong> says:  I don&#8217;t think a domain name can make a business. (Unless your business is buying and selling domains, or parking names that have type in traffic.)   But, i agree with the basic sentiment that having the right name / domain name is important, if not very important.  The writer is mistaken that the .XXX extension has been granted. <a href="http://www.micromart.co.uk/features/article/default.aspx?id=22516">http://www.micromart.co.uk/features/article/default.aspx?id=22516</a></p>
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