Comments on: Google in-house AFD Goes Away – Monetization of TRAFFIC at GOOG more ALIVE than Ever! http://domainnamesales.com/sevenmile/2012-02/google-in-house-afd-goes-away-monetization-of-traffic-at-goog-more-alive-than-ever/ Frank Schilling's Official Blog Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:25:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Barat http://domainnamesales.com/sevenmile/2012-02/google-in-house-afd-goes-away-monetization-of-traffic-at-goog-more-alive-than-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-229569 Barat Wed, 07 Mar 2012 14:07:52 +0000 http://domainnamesales.com/sevenmile/?p=1861#comment-229569 Frank why not go after microsoft hard. For one day Direct your tffirac to them all of it to Bing.com and send out a press release Their servers will spike like crazy then watch the Jets roll into the Caymans with Paul Allen give you a double cheeked italian kiss ready to sign over a cheque to you . i will always maintain Microsoft will come a calling to you Frank And you will walk away with a couple of billion for your trouble. They already do it with Juice.com Or Heck do a post on Techcrunch.com After redirecting your traffic. To the common man it seems like a day of lost revenue but of course you can always peg that in to the purchase Price. Funny enough I remember reading that yahoo AGAIN almost bought demand media. Instead they went after that piece of crap called associated Content. Tick Tock.. Google is going to can those guys soon. and we all know now that Demand isnt making that much profit - Phew good to have you back frank. Just did another 5 figure deal and just about to do another super monthly contract.. I was driving a taxi 2 yrs ago. Welcome Back. Frank why not go after microsoft hard. For one day Direct your tffirac to them all of it to Bing.com and send out a press release Their servers will spike like crazy then watch the Jets roll into the Caymans with Paul Allen give you a double cheeked italian kiss ready to sign over a cheque to you . i will always maintain Microsoft will come a calling to you Frank And you will walk away with a couple of billion for your trouble. They already do it with Juice.com Or Heck do a post on Techcrunch.com After redirecting your traffic. To the common man it seems like a day of lost revenue but of course you can always peg that in to the purchase Price. Funny enough I remember reading that yahoo AGAIN almost bought demand media. Instead they went after that piece of crap called associated Content. Tick Tock.. Google is going to can those guys soon. and we all know now that Demand isnt making that much profit – Phew good to have you back frank. Just did another 5 figure deal and just about to do another super monthly contract.. I was driving a taxi 2 yrs ago. Welcome Back.

]]> By: Nilkant http://domainnamesales.com/sevenmile/2012-02/google-in-house-afd-goes-away-monetization-of-traffic-at-goog-more-alive-than-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-229563 Nilkant Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:03:40 +0000 http://domainnamesales.com/sevenmile/?p=1861#comment-229563 I would like to respectfully cmeomnt on some of the things you said in this post. It seems to have stirred a lot of folks up, as it should. The present day Domain Name traffic business needs it’s version of “Sir George” to reach past Google and Yahoo, unlocking the value of our traffic. Shell wasn't buying the oil, then because Getty contacted someone in authority, they starting buying it. Our traffic is already being bought even though prices are down (more on that shortly). It's not nearly the same thing in my mind. A new purchaser of traffic might help things, but as it is, the market for selling traffic just got smaller with Microsoft taking over Yahoo's search (for now). Increasingly the major keyword marketplaces such as Yahoo and Google have taken that high quality traffic and dumped it into the same keyword marketplace hopper with arbitrage, garbitrage, and other forms of toolbar crap. It is at least as good and often better in quality than Yahoo’s O&O search-box search and it has no place being dressed down and dumped in with other low quality forms of traffic. I don't think you have talked to many that spend a lot of money advertising. You are right that many don't know where their paid traffic is coming from, but I do.You seem to thing the domain traffic is high quality. Why? Perhaps if I had domains with no hyphens and less than 3 words I would understand. But part of the problem is that there are domain owners out there that commit click fraud and even conversion fraud. Are non-fraud arbitrage and toolbar searches a lower quality than typeins? I think not. The user is still looking for something despite the method they they arrive on your page and click on the ads. The problem is with FRAUD.As a domain owner (1,200+) and also an AdWords consultant, I see both sides of this situation, and I can tell you that high-profile keyword campaigns get hit hard with fraud. My estimate is 25%-40%, but with the growing amount of conversion fraud it's hard to really pin it down. I can tell you that while I have seen some good conversions come in from parked domains, I have also see clear cases of fraud on a pretty large scale. education, shopping, sports, hobby, and pets domains getting clicks for legal services. Could it he honest? Sure, some could be thinking they are on a search engine . But not most of it, and most of the fraud is on domains registered to non-us owners. Big surprise there !Lest I just complain without offering a solution, it's simple to me: Flat-rate advertising to replace bidding, or bid-for-flat rate . Sure our income may go down a little for a while, but as advertisers learn they can get more value for what they are paying, that should increase. My biggest client no longer advertising on the Google content network (now Display network). Too much fraud and no value. Man, I have been talking flat-rate so long I feel like Steve Forbes ! If there is a better solution to end fraud, let's hear it. They can crush would-be competitors as they rise from the crib. No, I don't think so. I can create my own parking page and have. All I need is some ads, a feed, an affilite offer, or to find advertisers. If you started some kind of service to place ads, do you think YOU would be crushed? Sure, we all hate you because you have so many damn domains, but we love you cuz you're a good guy. You have NO IDEA how many would jump onboard for something you launched, was seriously involved in, or just approved of ! I would like to respectfully cmeomnt on some of the things you said in this post. It seems to have stirred a lot of folks up, as it should. The present day Domain Name traffic business needs it’s version of “Sir George” to reach past Google and Yahoo, unlocking the value of our traffic. Shell wasn’t buying the oil, then because Getty contacted someone in authority, they starting buying it. Our traffic is already being bought even though prices are down (more on that shortly). It’s not nearly the same thing in my mind. A new purchaser of traffic might help things, but as it is, the market for selling traffic just got smaller with Microsoft taking over Yahoo’s search (for now). Increasingly the major keyword marketplaces such as Yahoo and Google have taken that high quality traffic and dumped it into the same keyword marketplace hopper with arbitrage, garbitrage, and other forms of toolbar crap. It is at least as good and often better in quality than Yahoo’s O&O search-box search and it has no place being dressed down and dumped in with other low quality forms of traffic. I don’t think you have talked to many that spend a lot of money advertising. You are right that many don’t know where their paid traffic is coming from, but I do.You seem to thing the domain traffic is high quality. Why? Perhaps if I had domains with no hyphens and less than 3 words I would understand. But part of the problem is that there are domain owners out there that commit click fraud and even conversion fraud. Are non-fraud arbitrage and toolbar searches a lower quality than typeins? I think not. The user is still looking for something despite the method they they arrive on your page and click on the ads. The problem is with FRAUD.As a domain owner (1,200+) and also an AdWords consultant, I see both sides of this situation, and I can tell you that high-profile keyword campaigns get hit hard with fraud. My estimate is 25%-40%, but with the growing amount of conversion fraud it’s hard to really pin it down. I can tell you that while I have seen some good conversions come in from parked domains, I have also see clear cases of fraud on a pretty large scale. education, shopping, sports, hobby, and pets domains getting clicks for legal services. Could it he honest? Sure, some could be thinking they are on a search engine . But not most of it, and most of the fraud is on domains registered to non-us owners. Big surprise there !Lest I just complain without offering a solution, it’s simple to me: Flat-rate advertising to replace bidding, or bid-for-flat rate . Sure our income may go down a little for a while, but as advertisers learn they can get more value for what they are paying, that should increase. My biggest client no longer advertising on the Google content network (now Display network). Too much fraud and no value. Man, I have been talking flat-rate so long I feel like Steve Forbes ! If there is a better solution to end fraud, let’s hear it. They can crush would-be competitors as they rise from the crib. No, I don’t think so. I can create my own parking page and have. All I need is some ads, a feed, an affilite offer, or to find advertisers. If you started some kind of service to place ads, do you think YOU would be crushed? Sure, we all hate you because you have so many damn domains, but we love you cuz you’re a good guy. You have NO IDEA how many would jump onboard for something you launched, was seriously involved in, or just approved of !

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